Ill Advised - Collected Songs ('95-00)

A few years back one of the original T.R.O.Y. forum mods Mustafa Goodprose aka MGP posted a very nice obscure Illadelph drop. Forum member Echo Leader was kind enough to bring this to my attention and I thought it was definitely worthy of a re-run. Below is the original post that went with the mix. Enjoy! --Philaflava

One of the most slept-on groups ever to do it.

My favorite group of the Philadelphia underground is Ill Advised. Comprised of rappers Baby Blak, Mr. Lish, and occasionally Rasheed (aka the Rebel Rahsheed aka Maylay Sparks) the crew put out a number of 12s in the mid-to-late 1990s on Quake City and later Eastern Conference Records.

Basically the story is this: Quake City is a label out of Philly. Ill Advised recorded two albums for them that were only released in Japan under the "Blue Dolphin" imprint. In the States Quake City Records a released number of 12's from the Ill Advised crew, the first being obscure "Against the Grain/Kwestions/Through the Eye," the second being the college radio hit "N.A.M.E.S./Encore," and the last two the 1986/Internal Affairs joint and another pressing with a remix featuring The Roots. Ill Advised were also featured heavily on the first or second Eastern Conference Records 12 with the songs "Captivating Cultivating," "All In Together Now" which featured Pauly Yams, and "Know A Little Nigga." Baby Blak is also featured on the original version of "Open Mic Night."

The crew fell off the map in 1999 when Mr. Lish went on a "judicial vacation" somewhere "up north." There were a lot of problems with Quake City Records, I believe that they went under in 2000 the the two albums they released in Japan (Wasabi and Can U Smell Me) never made it to stores in America. The problems for the crew only magnified with Eastern Conference Records. Milo Berger, aka DJ Might Mi aka DJ Mighty Bi, never paid Ill Advised a dime for anything. Word on the street (and straight from Baby Blak's mouth in an interview with Elemtree) was that they took Mi by force to an ATM machine and um, uh, well... "intimidated" him into draining his account for them on the spot. Also, Ill Advised affiliate Rahsheed is said to have thrown a stack of Eastern Conference 12's into the Delaware River in the video for his track (and first release on Quake City Records for all you vinyl geeks out there) "Industry Party Bumrusha." I've never seen this myself, just read about it one the internet. If someone can hook that video up for me though that'd be dope.

Ill Advised has gotten their shit together somewhat as of late. Baby Blak put out a nice album in 2003 called Blak Is Back. Blak has also put out a lot of 12s with DJ Revolution. He's also done a lot of work with hip hop legend DJ Jazzy Jeff. Lish is supposedly out of jail and the duo are currently preparing their American debut on BBE records.

For all of you vinyl collectors out there I want to let you know that there are some seriously rare Ill Advised joint floating around that have never made it to the internet. The first two are the crew's Japan-only releases Wasabi and Can U Smell Me?. The third is a version of 1.9.8.6. (I think, not sure which song it is from their catalog, but it's from one of their 12's) with Mr Eon on it and a different beat. It was played a few times on 89.1 and 89.9 in NYC. I'm not sure if it's test-pressing only or just an isolated acetate. If anyone remembers the "Neuman" skit on High and Mighty's debut album Home Field Advantage that's what that whole thing was about; Ill Advised thinking Eon was wack and Milo not paying them what they were owed so they pulled Eon's vocals off of all their new songs. The skit kinda backfired on High and Mighty in my opinion because everyone from Cage to Tame One to Necro has aired out Mighty Mi for his sloppy business dealings. Also a word of warning for the vinyl collectors (and maybe Ill Advised if they are reading this), there are two versions of the Through the Eye/Kwestions/Against the Grain 12' floatring around out there. I am not sure if one is a bootleg but I've seen pictures of a version with a faded rainbow-colored label being sold in Japan. I have a different version with an off-white-colored label. I am not too sure which one is the original or if the crew knows about the second pressing because when labels are running low on money, and this is especially true of smaller indie labels, they normally start bootlegging shit in Japan. Wild Pitch did it. Ask that Oasis-looking faggot Cage about Bobbito pressing up some of his shit (The Muppet Show) and releasing it in Japan behind his back. It happens all the time so I'm not sure of one of the pressings is legit.

And now the good part, the music. I've ripped a number of Ill Advised tracks from the original vinyl and uploaded them here for all of you. A few people have the N.A.M.E.S 12', it hardly comes up for sale, and fewer people even know about the 12' they released before that. Most rap fans missed the great shit they did on EC because it was never released on CD (and it's the best material EC ever put out in my opinion). A lot of people know about the shit they did with the Roots.

Here's the tracklisting, and remember that the quality of the actual vinyl for a lot of these records is dodgy and unmastered. Don't expect CD-quality sound, just good music.

Ill Advised - Collected Songs ('95-00)

1.9.8.6. Remix feat. The Roots
Against The Grain
All In Together Now
Captivating Cultivating
Encore
Internal Affairs
Know A Little Nigga
Kwestions
Names
Push
Renaissance
Through the Eye

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Philaflava Interview w/Maylay Sparks

Rare NYC Underground 1990-1996

Here's a dope little selection of rare hip hop out of New York City. Hook needs no introduction. If you missed his album, dont sleep.

http://philaflava.blogspot.com/2009/06/hook-hip-hop-101-new-york-1996.html

'Sicks weeks' is one of the strongest cuts from 'Hip Hop 101' and starts us off right. Second period is taught by the Sin Assasinz. This lesson comes from their full length album. Fellow contributor ThomasV brought us some of their earlier material awhile back.

http://philaflava.blogspot.com/2009/03/rev-run-presents-sin-assasinz-1995.html

The rest of this compilation is off the beaten path so I hope y'all check it out! Seems like the Abadaba single from 1995 is a little better known than his older stuff, but I'd go with his 1992 release any day.

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1 (4:42) hook - sicks weeks 1996
2 (3:23) sin assasinz - i don't care 1996
3 (4:48) asphalt poetry - harmagedion 1993
4 (4:38) i-power - test da spirit (remix) 1994
5 (5:15) azie - gangster shit (remix) 1990
6 (5:02) abadaba & the sonz of harlem - tha muthafuckin' great one 1992
7 (2:22) talaam - total hegemony 1992
8 (3:55) the pope - to tha rescue 1992
9 (5:42) cdld - i'm the man 1993

If you download this and like what you hear leave some comments. Dig in, let me know what ya think!

--Schenectadyfan

A Mid-Summer Night's Recap

You pick the spot and we'll meet in the meadow...

We're on a one-post per day schedule for the whole of July. Don't fret though, we'll be bringing the goods on a daily basis like it was the dead of winter. Here's a little recap of some recent notable posts, just in case you've been spending more time on a hammock than in front of a laptop...

Sounds Like The 90s Volume 7 - C'mon grandpa, get down with this rap thing. The kids think it's groovy.

Bush Babees: Non-Album Tracks - Remember we? Catch up on rare tracks from the Flatbush movement.

De La Soul - The Instrumentals - From D.A.I.S.Y. to Mosaic, the heat minus the plug tunin'.

Wu-Tang Clan Vs. D.I.T.C. - One of the greatest blend mix in recent memory.

Lucien Revolucien - You should know ... about Lucien.

T.R.O.Y. Presents: The Moaning - Clever compilation featuring sultry female vocal samples.

Breakfast With Domino - The Hiero beatsmith talks about production, crew, and making music history.

AZ - A.W.O.L. (Hydra Beats Blends) - AZ can flow, but his beat choice is inconsistent. So Vaporized picked some beats for him. This will stay in the whip 'til at least X-Mas, guaranteed.


And there you have it. If you joined us recently, welcome aboard. To the longtime supporters -we're just getting started.

Who Flipped It Better? Hiero vs. Large Pro

When I first heard this George Duke record, I immediately recognized the sample for Hieroglyphics', "You Never Knew". Dope sample. A Plus also incorporated a Patrice Rushen singing sample and sped it up to great effect. They wound up with an energetic, fast paced, warm weather anthem that made for a dope single and great video.

The first time I heard Large Pro's, "Dancin' Girl", I recognized it as having the same sample as "You Never Knew". I had to go back and dig for the original because it's not easy trying to remember every single song you ever heard and who used what for what. Nahmean?

Anyway, I was expectedly impressed with the way LP flipped that Duke sample. He looped that shit up lovely and turned it into a mellow, lounging at the tittie club anthem.

Not much more to be said here. Two great producers, two hip hop anthems.

Both dope, but in different ways. This is another example of the talent and creativity that goes behind sampling. Another example of how everybody hears things differently and how a good ear for samples can keep things fresh.

Previews:

George Duke - Seeing You

Patrice Rushen - Didn't You Know

Large Professor - Dancin' Girl

Hieroglyphics - You Never Knew

[Download all tracks here]

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Don't sleep on the "sampling" link within the post.

--Verge

AZ - A.W.O.L. (Hydra Beats Blends)

You already know what it is, but now it's better. T.R.O.Y. forum regular, vaporized, went and laced the acapellas of A.W.O.L. with some of the highly sought after Hydra Beats instrumentals. Whether you thought A.W.O.L was dope, mediocre, or garbage, you're gonna want to give this another listen right about now. It's a completely different look over these mostly mellow mid 90's soundscapes. I've had this in constant rotation for a couple of weeks now, and can tell you that this will be something to revisit often in the future.

Two tracks had to be left off because they just didn't work. And that may be for the best because we all know this hip hop thing can't be forced. My top 3 tracks at this moment are "Never Change", "Street Life", and "Chillin". I'll leave you previews of these three below the tracklist.

01. AZ - A.W.O.L. (E-Boogie blend)

02. AZ - Can't Stop (Nick Wiz blend)

03. AZ ft. Raekwon & Ghostface Killah - New York (Unsociables blend)

04. AZ - Never Change (Beatnuts blend)

05. AZ ft. Half A Mil & Begetz - Street Life (Unsociables blend)

06. AZ - Still Alive (Beatnuts blend)

07. AZ - The Come Up (Kid Called Roots blend)

08. AZ - Chillin' (Kid Called Roots blend)

09. AZ - Envious (Nick Wiz blend)

10. AZ - City Of Gods (E-Boogie blend)

Previews:

Never Change (Beatnuts blend)

Street Life (Unsociables blend)

Chillin' (Kid Called Roots blend)

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--Verge

Chilly Tee - Get Off Mine (CD 1993) The Bomb Squad

Chilly Tee isn't your regular 90's emcee; Travis Knight(Chilly Tee) is the son of then-Nike CEO & President Phil Knight. He released his first and only lp "Get Off Mine" in 1993 with a full album production from The Bomb Squad. But like fellow Bomb Squad's affiliates Young Back Teenagers, he wasn't a Vanilla Ice type of rapper. 7 of the 9 tracks from "Get Off Mine" are written by Firstborn of YBT while the other two are written by Chilly Tee himself. Some of the lyrics may not seem right(his dad was one of the richest at the time) but his flow is not bad; he sometimes uses the digge-dy das efx style but it's alright. You can't forget about the production though, definitely the main reason to check it out... Here's the Travis Knight of today.

Enjoy, Give Your Opinions.

1. Thinking Of A Master Plan (4:05)
2. One For The Trouble (3:45)
3. Get Off Mine (3:50)
4. I Guess She Didn't Know (3:55)
5. Audi Like Jetta (4:17)
6. On The Outz (4:34)
7. Krisis Of Identity (3:38)
8. Snap Ya' Neck To This (4:01)
9. Just Do It (3:33)

Produced By The Bomb Squad

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--Thomas V

Breakfast With Domino

Over the last few months T.R.O.Y. has been paying tribute to the Hieroglyphics crew. It has actually been considered the best Hiero homage found on the interwebs and if missed it, then don't say a word just click here.

Domino reached out to us and we took the opportunity to pick his brain a bit. This is for all the Hiero fans out there so check it out and get hip to Hiero 101. --Philaflava

How did you meet Del and the rest of Hiero?

I was introduced to Del through Dante Ross, at the time an A&R at Elektra who signed Del. I used to rent the back room of a SF record store Groove Merchant where Dante was shopping and we became friends basically through our similar tastes in records. I played him some of my tracks and he said I had talent and was gonna help me out. Ultimately he told Del about me, and he and A-plus came to my house and listened to beats. This was before the release of "I wish My Brother..." but after it had been recorded.

A month ago we did a piece on the Unkut interview with Dante Ross and we touched on his comments about Del's "No Need For Alarm" album, care to lend your thoughts?

I mostly agree with Dante about No Need for Alarm being a no chorus/freestyle type of album with very little song structure when when it was first delivered. I will give you the complete story of that album from my stand point since I was around for most of the sessions.
Around late 91', Del felt like "I Wish My Brother George Was Here" didn't truly represent who he was as an artist and more importantly, a lyricist. For the most part Ice Cube controlled what did or did not go on the album and Del grew to dislike his "Funky Human Being" image/sound. Most of what Del recorded at home with the rest of his Oakland crew sounded nothing like what on his first album. When it came time to do singles for IWMBGWH, Del was given free reign to release whatever he pleased on the b-side. It was on these singles that Del did Burnt and Eye Examination, songs that most reflect what Del was truly on at that period. By early 92', Souls of Mischief and Casual were getting signed and set off to do records about the same time Del was getting ready to start album number 2. This album was to be be recorded in the Bay Area and not in LA under Cube's control thus Del was able to totally spread his wings, at least he thought.

Del was booked for a long lockout and started recording songs for what was to be his new album. In the mist of this work, Street Knowledge (Cubes company) sent a Paul Stewart up to check on the progress and take back copies of the 8-10 songs Del had recorded already. Word got back that Cube didn't like anything he heard so Del went back into the studio and literally had the engineer (Matt Kelley) erase all he had recorded to start from scratch. (The only copies of those songs that exist were whomever had a rough mix cassette from the sessions. A few songs, "Neighborhood" and "What Do You say" are on Hiero Oldies and one, "In n Out", was re-recorded for the album. Del then recorded most of what would become No Need For Alarm with me and the rest of the Hiero crew focusing on what we were on at that time, lyrical skills.

Souls' 93 til and Casual's Fear Itself were being recorded at the same time in the same studio so all those 3 albums were in a lot of ways a joint effort. By the time we were done, Cube had basically stopped checking on Del and we delivered most of what was the album directly to Dante. Dante felt that the album was ok but mostly a bunch of freestyles and lacked structure and hooks that was needed for singles. Dante had him come to NY and they recorded "Boo Boo Heads" and "Treats For The Kiddies" to round out the album.

One thing I will always remember around that time was Cube told Del, "your crew makes good beats but they're not producers" and in hindsight, he was right. I think No Need For Alarm wasn't as well put together as IWMBGWH and certainly wasn't as commercial. At the same time, I believe it was the right record for Del to do at that point in his career because it established him as a lyrically progressive artist and helped get him the type of longevity that another IWMBGWH wouldn't have given him.

What is your favorite self-produced track?
"After Dark" is my all time favorite track that I produced. Mainly because of the many different sources of samples that matched so well together on the song. I also love Pep's performance on it, a perfect blend with the intensity of the track. I still get pumped when we do it live.

What is your favorite Hiero song?

Very hard to say but a few that stand out are"Make Your Mind Up" by SOM, "Thats How It Is Pt 2" by Casual feat A-Plus. A few Del Demo's, "Captain America" and "What Do You Say" still blow my mind when I hear them. As did "Eye Examination" when I first heard it. I obviously can't just say one.

Is there a lot of unreleased material in the Hiero vaults?

Yes, there is a lot of stuff but honestly most of the best work has been shared in one way or another through our Hiero Oldies releases. When I initially compiled them, I took what I felt was the strongest stuff we had done. Lots of the remaining stuff are cool demos but nothing to the level of the oldies songs, which I felt were as good as anything we had released on labels.

Can you elaborate on the Snupe situation?
Snupe just didn't fit where we were heading musically and there were also a few incidents between him and other crew members that made it best that we part ways.

Let's talk about Opio's progression as a producer. He didn't produce until the 2nd SOM LP so did you have anything to do with him becoming a producer?

I am sure he was influenced somewhat by me and the rest of the producers in Hiero but I believe it was something he wanted to do all along. I remember him buying a ASR-10 after the release of the 1st SOM album and just started making beats. There was a lot of tough love and jabs from us about his early work but he eventually came into his own nicely.

You disappeared for a few Hiero solos during the late 90s such as Future Development, Meanwhile, Focus, and 2 For 15, any reason why?

I was heavily involved in Future Development and in fact, "At The Helm" and "No Nuts" were originally recorded for that album. I was in the studio everyday and had input on every song he did. The Opio-produced "Oakland Blackouts" is another original Future Dev song.
I wasn't involved in Meanwhile or Focus because they were both a compilation of songs recorded at home by those guys. 2 for 15 was done after Snupe left Hiero although I recall being at one session, I didnt have much to do with it.

How many "classic" albums do you feel Hiero has in their catalog as a whole? And what are they?

I don't think I should be the one who says which of our albums are classics. That's best left for the fans and people who know our music. The album I personally liked the best is Hieroglyphics "Third Eye Vision."

In your opinion rank the following in terms of lyrical ability; Del, Pep or Casual?

Come on, thats like asking someone, who's their favorite child (laughs). I'll just say that Del is by far the best emcee I've ever been around in terms of originality combined with an amazing use of the English language. The best thing about all the emcees in Hiero is that they are all dope but still different from each other.

What is the most slept on Hiero album?
Pep Love "Ascension" is the most slept on Hiero album.

Where was the video for You Never Know shot?
The video was shot in Hawaii.

Will there be another Hieroglyphics album?
I don't know. It is becoming more and more difficult to get everyone together and focused. We tend to revisit the subject frequently so hopefully it will catch one of these times.

Outside of hip-hop what are some artists/albums you really enjoy?

Current non-Hip-Hop artists I most enjoy are Radiohead and Amp Fiddler. If you're talking about all time, I'd be hard pressed to name just one, some that I love off the top of my head like The Beatles, Curtis Mayfield, Fela Kuti, James Brown, Donny Hathaway and of course lately I've been listening to alot of MJ (RIP). For the most part I just listen to my iPod on shuffle so the variety is massive.

What are some non-Hiero artists you'd like to work with?

I'd love to work with Redman, Cee-lo or Rakim

Who are you 3 favorite producers of all time?

3 favorite Hip-Hop producers of all time are, Dr. Dre, The Bomb Squad and The Beatnuts.

Who are your 3 favorite current producers?

Currently it's Just Blaze, Dan The Automator and Jake One.

Best Bay Area athlete- Rickey Henderson or Jason Kidd?

I'm from SF, definitely Barry Bonds!!

What new material can we expect from the Hiero camp?

I am finally working on a production album which will have many Hiero cameos as well as others.

Any last words?

I want to send much love to all the people who have showed us love through the years. Ya'll have been a force in spreading the Hiero word to those not knowing. Keep asking questions and coming up to talk at shows because I really enjoy interacting with ya'll. Ya'll passion definitely helps keep me motivated

Hiero Producer Series: Domino

Domino - Production Files Volume 1
1. Pep Love & Jay-Biz - Sailing
2. Pep Love, Jay-Biz & Del - Anasthesia
3. Pep Love & Jay-Biz - The Blues
4. Casual - Fear No Evil (Demo)
5. Casual, Opio & Tajai - Rippers (Demo)
6. Souls Of Mischief - Our Secret (Demo)
7. Del - No Need For Alarm
8. Del, Casual, Snupe & A-Plus - No More Worries
9. Del - Don't Forget
10. Souls Of Mischief - Let 'Em Know
11. Souls Of Mischief - Live And Let Live
12. Souls Of Mischief - Disseshowedo
13. Souls Of Mischief - What A Way To Go Out
14. Souls Of Mischief - Make Your Mind Up (Remix)
15. Souls Of Mischief - Cab Fare (Remix)
16. Souls Of Mischief - 93 Outro

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For volumes 2-4 click here

Touring The States: Portland, OR

Cool Nutz is one of Portland's hip hop pioneers alongside his friend and business partner, super producer Bosko Kante. The two are founders and owners of Jus Family Records, founded in 1992. After several classic releases, Cool Nutz and Bosko have gained a cult following within the Portland hip hop scene and have been acknowledged outside of their hometown.

Cool Nutz has performed with artists such as like Ice Cube, Blackalicious, Wu-Tang Clan, Aceyalone, E-40 and many more. He also has been featured on tracks with E-40, Kurupt, Sticky Fingaz, Ras Kass, WC, Mac Dre and others.

This album was entirely produced by Bosko. The Jus Family Records site, says that the album has 11 tracks. On my version, track tags were messed up, so I corrected them. One track remaining untitled, so I'm guessing that this is a bonus track. I decided, in assistance with Verge, to title it "Neva Went Out" because it samples the B-Real line "Never went out and I don't think I'm gonna." Track is heat, like the rest of the album. Enjoy.

Cool Nutz - Dis Niggaz Nutz (1992)

01. Get Ready
02. I Got The Gun
03. Some Shit When We Team Up
04. Let Me B Yo Dog
05. Nigga!
06. My Niggaz On Da Under
07. No Skillz?
08. Emeralds, Angels And Roses
09. I'm Nutz
10. Young Portland Player
11. 2 Stoages!
12. Neva Went Out

Samples:

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-- Markshot

T.R.O.Y. Presents: The Moaning

Just when you thought most angles of this genre had been exploited, and some even run into the ground, the T.R.O.Y. forum regulars, mainly godmc, done got fresh with the concepts again. This is a compilation, with a mix companion, of songs featuring female moaning, singing, and even howling samples.

I might not have always noticed, but I've always had a thing for songs using samples like these. It's like you can't go wrong with a moaning sample. Whether it be sexy, eerie, or just straight ill, there's definitely something to be explored here. Whether you're buying it or not at this point, have we ever really steered you wrong?

01. L'Roneous - Implosion

02. Example - Slow Motion

03. Interlude 1 - Al Tariq

04. c.h.a.o.s. - Death Stalks

05. Brooklynytes - Reality

06. Interlude 2 - K-Otix

07. DoubleSpeak - Trial By Stone

08. The Candy Store - Escape From Belize

09. Interlude 3 - Group Home Seeds(extended inst)

10. Freestyle - Focus

11. House Of Pain - Word Is Bond [Diamond D Remix]

12. Interlude 4 - Lyrical Lunatics

13. Pharoah Monch - Queens

14. 5050 - Something Aint Right(J.Force Remix)

15. Interlude 5 - Raw Breed - Blood, Sweat & Tears

16. EC Illa - Somethin' Fo They Asses (Remix)

17. Dubside Collective - Souls From The Streets

18. N.O.N.E. - What You Got Ib vs Ir

19. Interlude 6 - Verge - Dirty Like Harry

20. Nomad Da Nomadic - Shantae

21. Xcaliber - Brand Name Women

22. Sick Lyrical Damager - It's Over

[Download compilation of separate tracks here]

[Back up link here]

Our resident mixmaster, vaporized, was cool enough to bless us with a well blended mix of these tracks that fits perfectly on a CD. They are not in the same exact order as on the compilation, which also conveniently fits on one CD, but you can download both and then match the tracks up. Besides, they both flow different and who wouldn't want all these bangers on separate mp3s AND in a mix?

Mix Preview:

If the divshare isn't working, click here for the preview.

[Download full mix here]

[Backup link here]

We still have plenty of left overs to make a few more of these, but the well is still not markedly

tapped. So, if you can think of some, either drop them in the comments or at the forum. Bear in mind we already have over 100, so you might want to peep the list at the forum first and see what you can bring to the table.

Big shout to godmc for taking the chance and sparking this project and to everyone who contributed.

Thanks to dirt_dog for the cover artwork.

And props to vaporized for taking on the task of mixing this for your listening pleasure.

And, if you still haven't checked the Nas - I Am album remixed over Godfather Don and 45 King beats, you really don't know what you're missing. This should replace the originals on the record store racks.

Stay tuned for AZ's A.W.O.L. album over Hydra Beats and hopefully more volumes of "The Moaning".

--Verge

Doo Wop & Sun Dullah (King Sun) - New York Love (1996) 2Pac Diss

All Eyez On Sun Lyrics

"You goin overboard with all that, fuck New York shit
trying to dis Brooklyn, but the Boogie 'bout to talk shit
and ain't no fun, if the Dullah can't get none
risin in the East, I'm bout to set it on the West, son
Listen, I ain't even down with who you dissen
far as I'm concerned NY been ass-kissen
for the longest, on the live side I'ma dead it
you aint a trooper, I know that's all super-unleaded
gas you inhaled from all your record sales
cause you went to California and blew up, but you fail
tryin to dis the big apple, I aint supposed to wanna battle
for a million dollar raffle? You gettin gaffled
soon as I see you got a million
after the battle, I be like "oooh what a feeeelin"
Toyota will be selling me they biggest Landcruiser
money green so niggas could fiend like drug users
winners slap users like pimp slap hoes
and we know Suge is pimpin them hoes on Death Row
you actin like you wanna beef, but talkin below me
you ain't a real thug, you a real CaliPhoney
**
Who Shot Ya? No it wasn't me and my peeps
you're talking bout New York, wordup, like something sweet
don't fool yourself, this ain't New York Undercover
it's real like the history of your father and mother
I'm sayin, think about that shit that you did
had a shootout in NY, raped a bitch, did a bid
like you proud of that, then let the world know it happened
first of all you fuckin up for other niggas' rappin
how you makin movies, selling records, doin tours,
then be up in Denemora (sp), scrubbin other niggas' drawers?
the whole point in being criminal is gettin paid
son, you paid already, actin Crazy like Eddie
fuck a Thug Life, niggas die being unlawful
let that peer pressure stress ya somethin awful
with the world in ya hand, fuck a man, be a King
you aint even a man cause you under the wing
Heltah Skeltah from the shelter, need protection
now you're one of Suge Knight's sons, runnin for election
against Snoop Dogg for that top dog spot
Death Row, Prisoner-of-the-month on lock.
***
Now everybody know you from them roles you be playin
so all that make a record shit aint even worth sayin
west coast rappers go platinum in a second
cause west coast niggas go out and buy records
but east coast rappers be on conceited shit
the wack emcees here make repeated hits
they get star-struck and stop giving a fuck
and lyrically, half these niggas suck, and what
just put the real rappers in the ring
let your man bring the beats and whoever do they thing
fuck a record sale, fuck a phoney reputation,
fuck a pimp record label and them suck-dick stations.
Show skills, how ya flow skills, rock a party-
live from the heart, in front of everybody
without a shotty, ain't no need for all that
get your stupid ass some rikers & tracks, fuck the gats
my people out in Cali aint got nothin to do with this
you on your own dick, partner, and you new to this
I could never dis my peeps in the west
but, that dissin Biggie shit, we still ain't impressed..."

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Here's a blog from King Sun on his Myspace about the diss:

"Ok, I was the first to respond with a dis record towards Tupac when he first dissed Tribe Called Quest at the Source Awards in '94. Since Tupac appeared on "California" wit Dre, I felt the need to respond wit "Califony" and derived the hook from the Die Hard movie when Bruce Willis was a cop from NY and had beef in Cali. Every time he killed an adversary his reply was "Yippie Kay Ya Mother Fucker."

The beat was produced by DJ Mark the 45 King and was cut up by Funk Master Flex in D&D Studios in Midtown Manhattan. Shout outs to Doug and Dave. I then allowed Doo Wop to put the song on his mixtape to generate a buzz. Tupac and I discussed the dis song after having Ice-T play it for Pac. We laughed together over the phone and Pac new it was nothing personal, but I had to rep NY to the fullest. Shout outs to Ice-T, who's like my older cousin from the Left Coast who has always held me down, to WC Crazy Toons, DJ Aladdin, DJ Pooh, Evil E and Hen G and Shawny Shawn.

Rest in peace Pac. Our love goes out to Mrs. Shakur. Tell BIG I said "Hold some equality for me and Lady Heron and be at the door with Jesus so we can get in!"

Doo Wop played his record with King Sun on his critically acclaimed Summer Jam '96 mixtape. Doo Wop also goes at 2Pac & The Dogg Pound at the end of the tape. Notice how the mixtape only features East Coast artists. This was around the time of Hit' Em Up. According to DJ King Shammek, King Sun had also recorded another diss record titled "Don't Know How To A.C.T." directed at Westside Connection

Bonus: Doo Wop - Summer Jam '96

-- Thomas V